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Eco, U. (1989). The open work. Harvard University Press. | Eco, U. (1989). The open work. Harvard University Press. | ||
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+ | influenced by Dewey, Croce | ||
[[eco-open-notes|some points from chapters 1-4 of The Open Work]] | [[eco-open-notes|some points from chapters 1-4 of The Open Work]] | ||
- eco's open work: normative poetics, aesthetics, and a pragmatic aesthetic theory | - eco's open work: normative poetics, aesthetics, and a pragmatic aesthetic theory | ||
- | - aesthetics vs. poetics | + | - aesthetics vs. poetics(chapter 1, poetics of the open work, p. 22) "We have to distinguish between the theoretical level of aesthetics as a philosophical discipline which attempts to formulate definitions and the practical level of poetics as programmatic projects for creation." |
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- | "We have to distinguish between the theoretical level of aesthetics as a philosophical discipline which attempts to formulate definitions and the practical level of poetics as programmatic projects for creation." | + | |
- pragmatic aesthetic theory | - pragmatic aesthetic theory | ||
+ | - all works are inherently open (Croce, emphasized by Eco) | ||
+ | - indeterminacy, | ||
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+ | - consciousness is an infinitely incomplete experience of the universe (p. 16-17) | ||
+ | - our pragmatic aesthetic theory is described as " | ||
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+ | - referential vs. emotive function in messages, the relativity of meaning based on referential content depending on the percipient(p. 29~35) | ||
+ | - p. 36 " | ||
- normative thought | - normative thought | ||
+ | - one purpose for work is as a " | ||
+ | - p. 39 while all works are open by definition, one potential purpose (and a common one in contemporary culture) is the emphasis of an extreme openness | ||
+ | - the purpose eco suggests is "the growth and multiplication of the possible meanings of a given message" | ||
+ | - contemporary art deliberately and systematically tries to increase its range of meanings p. 58 | ||
+ | - "This kind of openness is best defined as an increase in information" | ||
+ | - creating an open work | ||
+ | - p. 57 the larger the amount of information, | ||
+ | - Eco quotes Poe as saying (paraphrase) "a good poem is one that can be read at one sitting so as not to ruin its intended effect with interruptions and postponements. Each audience member has their own capacity to assimilate poetic information." | ||
+ | - (me: sometimes) p. 74 pleasure in art experience is rooted in the psychological process of integrating information and experience | ||
+ | - meyer: a style is a system of probability. p. 77 | ||
+ | - complete openness, as in a dictionary or a collection of physics essays or grocery lists, is not sufficient for being a work, as we still need a kind of underlying structure for determining possibility. (chapter 1) | ||
+ | - methods for introducing openness: aleatoric methods, improvisation, | ||
+ | - open work: unfinished, components of a construction kit, the composer is unconcerned with the manner of the components' | ||
+ | - the listener can choose their own mode of approach, their own determination of the relationship between parts, their own (though possibly guided) meaning (p. 9-11) | ||
+ | - more radical when the audience collaborates with the composer in making the composition (p. 12), as well as works which are incomplete and constituted of structural units, " | ||
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+ | a typical closed electronic music performance (Plastikman at Sonar) | ||
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+ | TOPLAP: "Show us your screens!" | ||
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+ | a typical live coding improvisation with text communication with the audience: https:// | ||
- visual openness (superficial? | - visual openness (superficial? | ||
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+ | Fis and Renick Bell live at Berlin Atonal festival, photo by Camille Blake | ||
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- need for an openness in society | - need for an openness in society | ||
- society is increasingly mediated by algorithms | - society is increasingly mediated by algorithms | ||
+ | - supply chain: Walmart, Carre Four, gasoline distribution, | ||
+ | - not necessarily dystopic: | ||
+ | - Allende, Project Cybersyn: https:// | ||
+ | - Towards a New Socialism (book) http:// | ||
- problems caused by a lack of transparency | - problems caused by a lack of transparency | ||
- ignorance of algorithms means ignorance of the basic relations of society | - ignorance of algorithms means ignorance of the basic relations of society | ||
+ | - Facebook, Twitter, etc. timeline algos | ||
+ | - credit systems, face recognition etc. for crime prevention | ||
+ | - algorithmic bias/ | ||
- ignorance of algorithms leads to a sense of powerlessness | - ignorance of algorithms leads to a sense of powerlessness | ||
- | - what new relationships does open algorithmic art expose or suggest | + | - Eco says open works suggest new forms of organization and relationship. |
- | - by exposing algorithms and showing how they can be beautiful, the understandability | + | - by exposing algorithms and showing how they can be beautiful, the understand-ability |
- even for programmers, | - even for programmers, | ||
- foregrounding the algorithm then emphasizes these possibilities | - foregrounding the algorithm then emphasizes these possibilities | ||
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paradox: how can a rational algorithmic system which encapsulates logical concepts lead to radical intuitive open connection? | paradox: how can a rational algorithmic system which encapsulates logical concepts lead to radical intuitive open connection? | ||
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it's the ineffable paradox of duality expressed in the tao te ching: accepting limits in order to be limitless | it's the ineffable paradox of duality expressed in the tao te ching: accepting limits in order to be limitless | ||
openness, receptiveness, | openness, receptiveness, | ||
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+ | I think that the main difficulty of the auditory engagement is that while you are playing on computer u kinda incorporated the computer algorithsystem. So you act as a part or of the computer logic. And in my oppinion the musician is totaly sepated from the audience in this situation. He operates in kinda artifitial audible bubble detached from the sonic continuum and the perception experience shared with the audience. | ||
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+ | renick: | ||
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+ | assuming this is a problem in achieving one's purpose, what strategies could the performer use to change the situation or otherwise overcome it? | ||
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+ | evegeniy bylina: | ||
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