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   - sequence (phrase, at least it starts with an f sound)   - sequence (phrase, at least it starts with an f sound)
   - structure (form)   - structure (form)
 +  - appendices 1 (other advice) and 2 (future)
  
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-===== history =====+===== 1. history =====
  
 gleb - overview of algorithmic music (musicians, techniques, concepts)  gleb - overview of algorithmic music (musicians, techniques, concepts) 
  
-christopher ariza's www.algorithmic.net+christopher ariza's www.algorithmic.net, Michael Nyman's Experimental Music (book), Oxford Handbook of Algorithmic Music, etc
  
 musical dice games musical dice games
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 +{{:mozart-game.jpg|}}
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 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs7wpfIKFxk
  
 serialism serialism
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 analog synthesis (east and west coast schools, subotnick etc) analog synthesis (east and west coast schools, subotnick etc)
  
-computer-aided algorithmic music+algorithmic composition 
 + 
 +AI, expert systems
  
 machine learning is just an extension of neural nets machine learning is just an extension of neural nets
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   - mark fell   - mark fell
   - shelly knotts   - shelly knotts
-  - alo alik+  - alo allik: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0mRyo7NQYtuY2dZJn5bLiQ
   - kindohm (mike hodnick)   - kindohm (mike hodnick)
   - live coding scene   - live coding scene
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-===== principle =====+===== 2. principle =====
    
 "[coarse everyday reality is composed of subatomic indeterminant parts]" Dr. Murray Gell-Mann on Thinking Aloud speaking on quantum theory "[coarse everyday reality is composed of subatomic indeterminant parts]" Dr. Murray Gell-Mann on Thinking Aloud speaking on quantum theory
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvo6BciUrfQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvo6BciUrfQ
 +
 +Dr. Murray Gell-Mann https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Gell-Mann
  
 artificial creativity - an artificially created agent displaying characteristics of original thought artificial creativity - an artificially created agent displaying characteristics of original thought
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-===== 1. overview of some types of generation of sounds =====+===== 3. overview of some types of generation of sounds =====
  
  
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   - waveguide   - waveguide
   - various destructive processes   - various destructive processes
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 +in SuperCollider, UGens
  
 curtis roads books curtis roads books
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-===== 2. overview of some types of generation of sequences =====+===== 4. overview of some types of generation of sequences =====
  
   - serial techniques   - serial techniques
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 "All the generated pieces lacked the extent of overall melodic progression or global structure of the original piece" Anna K. Yanchenko, Sayan Mukherjee, https://arxiv.org/pdf/1708.03822.pdf  "All the generated pieces lacked the extent of overall melodic progression or global structure of the original piece" Anna K. Yanchenko, Sayan Mukherjee, https://arxiv.org/pdf/1708.03822.pdf 
 +
 +in SuperCollider, Patterns library, other
  
 my system my system
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 +{{:conductive-poster.png|}}
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 +{{:conductive-data-120122-test.png|}}
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 +{{:play-v2.png|}}
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 +{{:conductive-user-perspective-120122-test.png|}}
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 +{{:ioi-explanation.png|}}
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   - generate rhythmic phrase   - generate rhythmic phrase
 +    - stochastic
 +    - lsystem
 +    - euclidean
 +      - euclidean patterns in supercollider https://github.com/supercollider-quarks/Bjorklund
 +    - cropped/looped euclidian
 +
 +{{:honshinsa-slide-12-lsystem.png?800|}}
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   - generate variations at different densities   - generate variations at different densities
 +    - how density tables work
 +    - increase density algorithm
 +    - decrease density algorithm
 +
 +{{:density-explanation.png|}}
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 +{{:relationship.png|}}
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 +  - assign rhythm patterns to Players 
   - generate paths through those tables   - generate paths through those tables
 +    - density table path patterns (sum of Player, style, global)
   - generate sample patterns (to be played by Players)   - generate sample patterns (to be played by Players)
   - agents to change processes (Conductors)   - agents to change processes (Conductors)
 +    - change playing Player
 +    - change rhythm pattern
 +    - change density table pattern
 +    - change sample pattern
   - agents to change the agents (also Conductors)   - agents to change the agents (also Conductors)
 +    - start and stop other Conductors, change Conductor parameters
 +
  
-generation of systems 
  
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-===== 3.overview of some types of interaction =====+===== 5. overview of some types of interaction =====
  
 olga - i have lots of struggle with live, i want to control everything, i need some freedom, how to control the parameters  olga - i have lots of struggle with live, i want to control everything, i need some freedom, how to control the parameters 
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 "God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference." "God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference."
 Serenity Prayer, Reinhold Niebuhr, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_Prayer Serenity Prayer, Reinhold Niebuhr, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_Prayer
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 +in SuperCollider, you build it, live code it
  
   - my system interaction = relinquishing control to agents   - my system interaction = relinquishing control to agents
-  - make one operation map to several subsystems+ 
 +{{:butch_morris.jpg|}} 
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 +{{:me-and-robots.jpg|}} 
 + 
 +  - make one operation map to several subsystems 
   - remember what cope says: top-down rather than note-by-note; let the indeterminancy speak    - remember what cope says: top-down rather than note-by-note; let the indeterminancy speak 
   - live coding! interaction with symbol rather than physical gesture   - live coding! interaction with symbol rather than physical gesture
     - some things that gesture is good for that i'd like to return to     - some things that gesture is good for that i'd like to return to
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 +{{:seq-operator.png|}}
 +
 +
  
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-===== 4. other practical advice on preparing a big live set =====+===== appendix 1: other practical advice on preparing a big live set =====
  
 top-down preparation:  top-down preparation: 
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 live mastering effects live mastering effects
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 +{{:signal-flow.png|}}
  
 make your system robust so that it handles failure easily make your system robust so that it handles failure easily
  
 make your system easy to set up and tear down. i tend to fail at this! current working area make your system easy to set up and tear down. i tend to fail at this! current working area
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 +{{:flowchart.png|}}
  
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-===== 5. the future: =====+===== appendix 2: the future: =====
  
 more top-down algorithms more top-down algorithms
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 ===== discussion, questions ===== ===== discussion, questions =====
  
 +katya:
 +
 +so we need more control to construct “interesting something” which actually maybe not organic (not familiar for our audible nature and perception? In this case, in my oppinion, this approach can be comparable with the process of competition, where a man (musician, creatore,  power holder, human) is trying to outdo himself (kinda sport or capitalist race).
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 +And i also think about super control (profession control) over the sound that is to be heard by the audience. Another question is about the responsibility on “programming” of the recipient perception.
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 +it would be interesting to analyze what was happening with perception and what were the consequences at the time of the introduction of harmonic music as a norm with what the music constructed by the algorithm now offers. Where does it shift our perception of reality?
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 +Maybe you know examples of inclusive work with algorithmic music? for example, artists who  are creating algoromitric compositions for hard-of-hearing persons or deaf people?
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 +>> regarding deaf people, anny is a deaf live coder! https://www.leftlion.co.uk/read/2017/january/talking-algorave-with-notts-based-electronic-music-maker-anny/
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 +which frequency:
  
 +Renick, I have a question about how you organise the whole live set. Is it more like different "tracks" with their own samples and algorithms, which are then mixed in generative way. Or is it more like a head algorithm that has its own structural path and that picks certain samples or code pieces, where they are needed.
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